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 Post subject: U.K. Elections.
PostPosted: Fri Jun 02, 2017 3:07 pm 
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It's beginning to look like a real possibility.
We might next Friday, have our first Socialist Prime Minister since Clement Atlee.


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 Post subject: Re: U.K. Elections.
PostPosted: Sat Jun 03, 2017 5:40 am 
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i know. the Tories have been pretty inept at this, after May's hubris and over-reach. i still think it will come in conservative, if for no other reason than the relentless smear campaign against Corbyn.

interesting to see though.


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 Post subject: Re: U.K. Elections.
PostPosted: Sat Jun 03, 2017 7:21 am 
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I would love to have a Socialist PM, just not Corbyn. He reminds me of a supply teacher who, when being ripped apart by 14 year olds, resorts always to either shouting platitudes or writing on the board hoping they'll stop tormenting him. I don't think either of them is capable of debate.
His 'team' is appalling and unelectable too. I note those with half a brain, like Benn, are keeping a low profile until after the election.
May seems pretty keen to lose the election by making it about her, and is dreadful as a figurehead.
If Corbyn does get in it will be because of May's ineptitude, and poor Labour voters who are dim enough to believe the promises.
If all these wonderful things were possible, the Tories would be promising them too, I'm sure.
I've given up considering the equally awful national parties and will just vote on the constituency candidates. The Labour candidate is invisible in this rural shire, the LibDem (my usual vote) is hopeless and the sitting Tory MP is actually a very good MP - so for the first time ever it will be Tory. Never thought it would happen, but Corbyn has persuaded me that he and his team would wreck the country.

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 Post subject: Re: U.K. Elections.
PostPosted: Sat Jun 03, 2017 11:04 am 
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http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/jer ... s_20170602


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 Post subject: Re: U.K. Elections.
PostPosted: Sat Jun 03, 2017 2:05 pm 
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daelm wrote:
http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/jeremy_corbyns_labour_party_is_a_beacon_in_these_blighted_times_20170602


Yes, the visionary in me sees what may be possible.

The person in me who has interviewed a hundred like Corbyn for teaching jobs, management jobs and marketing jobs can see he is weak and totally incapable of tough negotiation domestically and holding his own overseas.

May's performance doesn't exactly fill me with optimism either.

Maybe it is because I is old ( ;) ) but the front benches of late seem to have been filled with weak and unimpressive sheep without a shepherd. Sure, we have a shouty Scot leading the SNP and a couple of Tory eccentrics, but no leaders. If things don't change I can see Blair returning with Nick Clegg to create a centre party........after all, the kids who can vote now seem to support anyone who can sound cool and, like, for the people. ;)

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 Post subject: Re: U.K. Elections.
PostPosted: Sun Jun 04, 2017 7:07 am 
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Among people I know who can vote (18 year olds), quite a few support labour. They mainly think a lot of Corbyn's ideas are stupid and unaffordable, but prefer him to the Tories.

Although, I know a large number of people who support Lib Dems or the Green party.

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 Post subject: Re: U.K. Elections.
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I dont like the stupidity of May and the smugness of Corbyn..what to do?


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 Post subject: Re: U.K. Elections.
PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2017 3:34 pm 
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VOTE TORY ?
I have never voted Tory and thought I never would, but the alternatives are chilling. Sadly, with the Tories out, the result of everyone voting tactically may create a dangerous mess. I would urge people not to forget to vote with awareness of the best candidate for their constituency as well as the national picture.
Personally, the thought of Corbyn who spent a lifetime opposing every anti-terror measure, and his terminally dimwitted former mistress Diane Abbott in charge of our security, and the Marxist sidekick nobody can remember except that he also likes rallies, makes me wonder precisely who could possibly think of electing Labour to negotiate Brexit, control international nuclear weapons use and provide anti-terrorist action.
It's great to protest...Corbyn has done nothing else all his life...but who could possibly imagine him as a leader of the nation. We'd be bankrupt and overrrun with terrorists within the year. The man is great at shouting slogans but has never ever been chosen by his own party to hold a position of trust. Yes, a load of dewy-eyed people paid a few quid to join the party and vote in the 'visionary' but hardly any of his own MP's think he is up to the job.
Trust them, they know him........and don't let the euphoria persuade you to vote for a man who will unleash chaos and create the conditions for terrorism on a huge scale across the UK.

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 Post subject: Re: U.K. Elections.
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If I thought any of that was true I would not vote for him. I have a family that I love.
But I think that the reality is far removed from the media presentation of the man.
If I were American I would have backed Bernie. I am backing Corbyn for most of the same reasons.

I'm with Jezza. I am expected a small Tory majority, but I'm with Jezza.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 7:27 am 
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Latest news is that Abbott has been replaced 'indefinitely'....but the fact that he chose her scores healily against his judgement. Tax calculation to deliver what Corbyn promises would be the highest since 1949, plus massive national debt................and then we're back to auterity but also bankrupt.
I spent my life as a senior manager in the public sector and would dearly love to see all his fantasies come true....but if it were possible then the Tories would be making the same promises.
My fear is that Corbyn may get just enough votes to form a coalition becuase people like students will fall for the bribe and the romantic revolutionary stuff...........just like I did at the same age. Selfishly, I'd like my pension to be restored to the RPI and not lose the home I've worked hard to pay for.......but I just don't think Corbyn could deliver a pizza let alone an economic miracle and create free money for us all. Mind you, where I am in Wiltshire there is no hope for any Labour candidate.......they don't even bother campaigning here,sadly.

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